Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Here it is...


OK - here are some buy/rent comparisons. The results may surprise you. My conclusions at the end will surprise you even more.

They are just random cases I found on the net, and I have applied my less than perfect analysis to them.

I read some posters state that a house should sell for 200X it's rent or some such simplistic formula.

In fact the relationship between renting and buying is very complex, and there is no 'right formula', it all depends on what is happening to housing and the economy. I will explain this all at the bottom.

Assumptions:

I have used the ING 5 year fixed @ 3.9%.

Some folks will compare mortgage payments with rent. However some of the mortgage payment is used to pay down the debt. This is a way of 'forced saving'. Over time the debt will diminish, however over time, rents generally go up. So I have put down the amount the debt is reduced for the first year of the mortgage as an indication. I think this gives you a fairer comparison. (I am a fair bear after all)

I have assumed a 20% down-payment +/- for rounding.

I may have played down the costs of owning. A new roof would set you back many thousands, as would any significant repairs.

Lets look at a few examples:


1) Small Condo in Coal Harbour:

# 807 555 JERVIS ST, Coal Harbour, Vancouver West, $358,000.00
HARBOUR SIDE PARK. Located in prestigious Coal Harbour just steps from Stanley Park, Marina and best downtown living. Updated kitchen/bathroom w/granite countertop. Hdwd flr. 1 parking/2 storage. Rent $1300/mth.

Rental cost: $15,600 a year

To buy:

Assume 20% down ($70,000)

Lost opportunity @ 1% = 700 a year
Mortgage on $288,000 = $18,000 a year
Strata fees = $2444
Repairs = $500
Taxes = $1200

Total = $22,844

In the above example nearly $7000 would be applied to reduce the loan. So there is no significant difference between the two.

2) Port Coquitlam home:


2100sf. house on an 8100sf. lot with 4 bedroom and 2.5 bath. House is like new with hardwood floors, granite counter top, island kitchen, vaulted formal living room, two gas fireplaces, master bedroom with ensuite bathroom, attached garage, and alarm system. Fenced back yard with large inground saltwater pool, sunken deluxe hot tub, garden shed/pool house, garden area, nicely landscaped with stamped concrete patio. To keep the yard beautiful the property has inground irrigation system. House is on a no thru road 1 min. walk to bus stop, close to park and school. 5 min. from Home Depot. Available June1, but flexible. No smoking and no pets please. Reference a must. $2100 +util

For Sale Comparison few doors down: V757487 $532,000

Rental cost: $25,200 a year

Owning with $100,000 down.
Lost opportunity on D/P = $1000
Maintenance etc= $2000
Mortgage on $432,000 = $27,120
Taxes (estimated) = $2200
Total = $32,300
However $10,000 of that will reduce the debt.

3) Large Luxury House in West Vancouver:


$41,880 a year.

To buy something equivalent look at 1265 INGLEWOOD AV, Ambleside, West Vancouver, (V724242) $1,288,000. Same area, though the rental property has a view. The property for sale is assessed at $1,127,000 and last year's taxes were $4241. (source: https://ecom.westvancouver.net/tempestlive/WebInquiry/frames.cfm)

So:

Lost opportunity on D/P $200,000 x 1% = $2000
Mortgage on $1088,000 = $68,300 a year
Maintenance. Roof/yard work/painting etc = $2000 a year

Total = $72,300 a year.

However $26,000 of this is applied to the reduce the loan. So the difference is not that much.
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Ok now for the chat:

As you can see, once we account for the amount which is used to pay down the debt, the cost of renting and buying are remarkably close. This has not been the usual case in Vancouver. There has been a premium to buying due to several reasons:

1) Due to limited land, population growth and inflation, property has trended up, leading to capital appreciation.

2) This capital appreciation is a tax-free gain and as such was regarded by financial planners as one of the best ways of accumulating wealth tax free.

3) When you rent -there are many tangible costs such as moving expenses and intangible ones such as being at the whim of your landlord for lease renewals and the anxiety of frequent moves, stability for schooling, neighbours etc.

Because of these, renting has been cheaper than buying for as long as I can remember. However as the lunatic boom of the last few years got going and everyone wanted to get on the capital appreciation band-wagon this difference expanded to 100% or more is some cases.

So how did we end up near even now?

1) Prices have dropped

2) Mortgage rates are at remarkably low rates.

3) The 'lost opportunity' on the down-payment is very low (unless you can time the stock-market)

So is this the time to buy?

There is no magic formula for when to buy. The most important factors are the mortgage interest rates and the state of the economy.

The fact that rent/buy costs are so close, is a sign of how unusual (and potentially bad) our current situation is. If things weren't bad- interest rates would not be so low, and yet house prices are dropping even though it costs as much or less to buy than rent.

If you expect rents to drop, prices to drop, no bonus or worse no job-do you buy- whatever the comparisons?? No!

It is the current uncertainty that is causing the rent/buy parameters to get so close. While it has stimulated some demand, I would expect the uncertainty to trump it very soon...perhaps this summer.

I expect that by the time this is all over we will see rents and prices fall further and just as a pendulum swung too far to one side, it will then swing too far to the other side and there will be a period when it will be CHEAPER to buy than rent! A complete repudiation of the bubble we just had.

However this is just may opinion, and worth as much or as little as anyone's. Opinions welcome..



FREE Personal Income Tax Software Released !

Although a bit late, but finally its released.  Or has it been released for sometime and only now they email me ?  Anyway taxsaya is one of the few great softwares given that we have limited choice in personal finance softwares for malaysian.


2008 version is much better than 2007.  You will have to download different version for different filing years. 

You will also need to uninstall previous version of 2007 if you want to work on your 2008 version.  Else the 2008 version will report problems looking for something from 2007.  This has already been reported to Taxsaya and may be fixed by the time you read this article.
Actually Taxsaya commented that you don't need to uninstall 2007 to use 2008's version.  Above comment is only specific to my own case.  When running the 2008 version, it will automatically import some of your 2007 info over so that you have less hassle.  Things like personal details, child, spouse, employment, rental property, insurance etc. do not need to be re-entered in 2008 version if you already enter those in 2007's version

2008 versions are concentrading on asking relevant and crucial questions and then give you the key information straight away.  This is much better when comparing to 2007 version.  But if you are using it for the first time, you may still find it cumbersome going through the wizard; which would be a feeling you should get over with if you are serious in your tax filing.

This is the screen you will see at the end.  Notice that they will tell you how many tips they think they can help you optimize your tax filing.  That is the part you will need to pay about RM 20 for it.


I haven't get the full version yet and I haven't explored all functions yet.  I am also not associated with Taxsaya and I don't get benefits from them.  But I admire their persistency in getting it through this 2nd year, despite the not-so-good 2007 version.  So in the good spirit of (1) promoting more people to care about their own income tax and also (2) encouraging local software development company (on personal finance software), I am thinking to sponsor this MYR 20 fee for my readers.  But I haven't figures out exactly how to do it yet.  It wouldn't be free money give away to avoid abuse, but rather something like if you buy some of my trading items up to RM 50-60 then I will sponsor the paid version of Taxsaya as well.


It would be a scam if the selling price of above items are higher than market price so I would throw in lowest price guarantee as well.

Or simply email me why I should simply give you RM 20 for free :)  I always appreciate honest and direct truthful sharing.  Decision to give would be at my mercy :)

Sorry above offer is NO LONGER valid.  After testing the paid version, I think its better to just use the FREE version first.  Unless you are REALLY HAPPY with it, then go ahead pay for it.  Otherwise, the optimization tips are just too simple and you are most probably already know those tips.  And usually not implementable at this stage of time.

Things that I think TaxSaya can improve on:
  1. Income Tax is not really an after event.  For example, 2009 income tax software should start to be used in 2009 itself, not in 2010.  Income tax planning for 2009 starts now and not next year.
  2. Tax optimizing is really an education, so a lot of tips and education notes should be shared on the same screen along the tax filing wizard 
  3. Other than the wizard, it should also provide a big screen facility for data entry, for some hard core tax filing people out there
  4. An online version that does not require upgrade and installation perhaps ?
  5. cater for business income ...
Try download immediately here, or actually you should visit their web site and let them verify your email first.

Tuesday, April 14, 2009

Can 12% return cope with 3% inflation ?

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If you have an investment that consistently gives you a 12% return while you have been controlling your own personal inflation at 3%, would that mean you are financially free forever ?

The first trick you may think off could be the actual amount of money involved. For example, a $100 12% investment will never be able to cope with $200 3% inflation. But in this case, the investment amount starts at $567,803 and the annual living expense is $53,915.

So do you think a 12% return from $567,803 is able to substain 3% inflation on $53,915 ?

This is actually the 3rd part of Gabriel's story. ( part 1, part 2 )
If you are one of those who cann't believe 12% return is still not enough to substain even 3% inflation, then buckle up and stay very close to this blog as you may not believe still how under educate we all are in our personal finances.
As shown in part 1 of the story, this is the projection to the question above.



and these are the first few years of calculation:

$53,915 inflated 3% becomes $55,532 next year. $567,803 with 12% return becomes $635,939. Minus out the $55,532 becomes $580,407. These are the numbers for subsequent years.

Everything seems fine as the total investment capital keeps growing.

However ... things start to change about 15 years later when annual expense reaches $83,997 and capital changes from $692,754 to $691,887; marking the end of capital up trend.

As you can see, the investment capital is rapidly deprecating after that until it completely disappears 30 years later.

So a 12% return on half a million can only substain a 3% inflated $50,000 for 30 years! 30 years is VERY far from eternity at all.

The case is quite ok for Gabriel because he is already 68 years old now and he has another backup fund other than the numbers shown here. But if this is a total retirement plan for a 30 years old person, this will only last him until 60 years old. Not to mention the potential short fall on the 12% return in some years and 3% inflation seems like a very tough target for a 30 years old person in today's environment.

Consistent 12% return is very close to the top performance you can ever get. (imagine Warren Buffect's average return from 1999 to 2007 is 9.23%). And a 3% inflation comes with very little hobby life style and I would consider it far from luxury. So even the best return can only last the most controlled life style for 30 years

Just like how other articles have been emphasizing, put down ALL your numbers on a paper, not just look at the overall concept or just the interest rate. Every case could bring a different result but if you look at the real numbers, you will put all other doubts and tricks away.

( part 1, part 2 ,part 3)

You may also be interested in these articles:

Ok happy readers..

So far, from the poll...it seems more people couldn't be bothered than contacted their MP.

The rest of you think politicians wont listen to your concerns? Really? Well you are probably right!

But if we are silent, then don't complain when they spend our tax money on propping up these monopolies.

You all know how politics work; they try $150 Million first. If the outcry from the public is manageable then they will send more money...much more.

If they want to support Canadian program content...who commissions the most Canadian content?..THE CBC! so why are they taking the knife to the CBC?

Anyway I have made it really easy for you:

Step one:

Click Here http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Compilations/HouseOfCommons/MemberByPostalCode.aspx?Menu=HOC

...and put in your post code

Step two:

Click on your MP's e-mail address. Write your concerns about the governments plan to pay out millions to the big media companies. Make sure you put your correct name down and ask for a reply.

Step three:

There is no step three! It's that easy.

I know most of you are bored with this subject. But this is incredibly important. A democracy works if there is a free press. We have had a media shackled by the views of a family or corporation, now it will get even get worse if the government decides who should survive and who should not.

Lets make our voice heard.

I will be working on my big post comparing buying v renting. You may be surprised by the results. I will need some encouragement to crunch the numbers. If you e-mail your MP, tell me in the comments section and I will get this post out quicker.

BTW $150 Million = 2000 low income housing units = 4000 folks off the streets.

Saturday, April 11, 2009

Be careful what you wish for...


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Ok Folks this needs to be said - we are in a terrible mess.

I know most of you read this blog hoping for clues on the direction of RE and patiently waiting for it to drop decisively. Well we are well on the way - down 15% form the peak and huge drops, 25% or more, in some areas like West Van and Port Moody.

But take a look at this graph and it will show you that Vancouver RE may be the least of our worries:

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUoVKepykxY3_yOLEXeRWKFgkgpT9Lnt-mfMhNTJi7M3jDUsygAc6_XJ6_kLbxlH4k5bTYJJvKDrc2URamXrgtEvwkLj3lbl53S5pJoYBwhY6csc27prHiqA_AKeIOrP9EbO1AEq42op9T/s1600-h/g7industrialproduct.jpg

I have never seen a graph like that. If anyone had shown that to me a year ago, I would have said they were crazy.

That is as near a total collapse in world-wide industrial production, as I had ever thought possible without a world war or pandemic.

Look at Japan!! Industrial output is crashing there - add that to an aging population and a Debt/GDP ratio well over 100% (with the GDP dropping rapidly) and the Japanese miracle has come to an abrupt end. Even Toyota, arguably the best car maker in the world is slashing production.

Anyway, back to my main point. I hope what lies ahead is not so dire, that even though RE is dropping, few bears will be left unscathed to enjoy it!

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Yeah, yeah. I know I said I wouldn't mention it again. But I put up a poll on the right hand side. It is self-explanatory.

Friday, April 10, 2009

10 value buy on consumer stocks ?

Saw a site that recommends 10 value Consumer stocks to buy base on what he learned from Benjamin Graham
  1. DNP
  2. EKOWOOD
  3. IBERHAD
  4. IQGROUP
  5. JMI
  6. LIIHEN
  7. MINTYE
  8. PROTON
  9. SERNKOU
  10. TOMEI
After gathering all the numbers for these 10 companies, this is their EPS



Some EPS are trending downwards so I would ignore them for now.  So I would only have a few left

EKOWOOD ( best formation )
IBHD ( has quite a few negatives )
LIIHEN 

TOMEI ( has a down trend but I just want to keep it in my consideration list as it is the best among the other down trends stocks )

These are their respective EPS trend graphs

Next I calculate the value of their stocks using this site with the following assumptions
use the lowest PE in past 10 years
use the 2 years EPS that can best match EPS growth trend
use 2008 EPS as the last known good result
I then find out the stock price that is worth me buying using the following assumptions
average of 15% growth yearly
for the next 10 years
a 50% safety margin ( I want to buy $2 with only $1 )
and these are my target buying price



Lets take a look at the technical charts for these stocks.  Basically these stocks have no volume which mean once buy in, you would have to at least keep for 3-5 years.  There is no apparent room for speculation.


After checking the last closing prices, EKOWOOD and LIIHEN both are just marginly under my target buying price, which smell like opportunity.  IBHD's price is $0.78 while my target buying price is $2.50, the difference is a bit too big which may require a re-examination to see what has happened.

So far all above are the stuff what you can get out of the numbers.  Lets take a look at the qualitative sides too.

Ekowood deal with wood and have a lot of trading sources all over the world.  While wood is not exactly a rising business, but if done correctly the resource is limited and supposinly the price can easily be appreciated.  However, Ekowood is too large and may not be easily transform into the new era of wood business.  Its not a business that will go away tomorrow but I do not forsee them to excel anymore.  Unless serious business model change is in place.  With only MYR 30 millions, you can take over the management to instill this change but TSH wouldn't let you.

LIIHEN is selling furniture, although also mostly wood based but they present themselves as the integrated solution provider.  Furniture isn't exactly a must buy item in consumer market.  So I do have doubts in any furniture based businesses that if they can survive through the next 2 years.  Before investing in LIIHEN, I may want to meet the management in LIIHEN and see what they plan to overcome today's problem while have big dreams to set for 5, 10 years future.  Without that, I wouldn't simply pick them.  I would also wait until mid of next year before heavily investment in them.

If you don't know IBHD, then you should know Sanyo electrical products.  They also built I-City in Shah Alam which is supposed to be the hot of the century.  If you are a Malaysian and don't know about I-City, then you may feel they aren't really that successful as a property developer neither.  Which I wouldn't disagree.  They tends to always spend a lot of money to make an event very hot for a very short time, but then without any supporting system at all for the crowd to come in and turn the marketing talks into real sales.  Imagine you see a flyer and call in but find that the operator do not even know what his own company is selling ?  If someone pick up your call at all.  This is one of the typical business that you need to know more internally what their linkages are economically and politically.  I don't have those knowledge and I usually stay away from it.  But if one day they have heavy volume traded, it could become a great stock to speculate in.

Summary
Out of these 10 stocks, I would put EKOWOOD as my top choice.  Followed by IBHD and Proton for future speculation targets.

Other Related of Supporting information

if you are ready to invest in stocks, you should also know


Week-end RE Round Up- Will add to this post as things come up.


1) When was the last time you saw a builder advertise for work? Been a while:


2) Canada lost 61,300 jobs last month. Add that to the 82,600 lost in Feb and the 129,000 lost in Jan and it start to add up. The only growth areas were public employees.

BC and Alberta were hit the hardest, with BC losing a huge 23,000 jobs, or one third of the total. Half of that loss being construction-related.

This ain't no ordinary recession.

I feel for those who have lost their jobs. Hopefully they are not too extended on debt and have some savings. At least it should mean there are more trades and labourers available for new projects.

Pretty soon, it will be a great time for a private buyer to build a house. Lower labour costs. Lumbar and copper and of course land have come down significantly. But humans being humans, there was a frenzy of building when everything was outrageously expensive and a dearth now.

3) I see ING offering 3.95% for a five year fixed. That's a pretty good deal. Will these low rates reignite the housing market?

Everyone has an opinion. For the (very) little it is worth here is mine.

These efforts may temporarily stabilise housing. However unless you think that's it for the recession, and we bounce straight up from here, then we have further down to go. The driver will be employment security above all.

Even with lower payments, no one wants to get into a big obligation, be that a large mortgage or car payments, if they are not sure they will have a job in a year. It's all about confidence. That's what the car manufacturers are learning. Even with near zero lease and financing options, they cannot stimulate demand.

So I think the lower rates will put a temporary floor under housing - but if, as I expect, the employment situation worsens, or interest rates start to back up with inflation (which I doubt,but is possible), then we get our second big leg down.

So far our pattern is following the US's remarkably closely. A big initial drop from the blow-off high. A period of stabilisation and then a bigger drop as those that have to sell and foreclosures crowd out other sellers.

4) I also don't think the Canadian banks are quite as strong as we keep boasting. Matt Stiles did a post on this : http://futronomics.blogspot.com/2009/04/is-canada-envy-of-world.html

I think we are in better shape than the US and Europe, however if we have a further 15-20% in house prices. Equity will vanish and the banks and CMHC will end up as significant property owners.

Also we may not have had Canadian Fannies and Freddies, but we do have CHMC - which in IMHO was so anxious to get people into home-ownership at the peak of the boom, that it helped fan the fire. I would like the government to tell us how much liability we are on the hook for due to CHMC's creativeness.

Of course don't expect any major news outlets to question the government or they may not get any funding.
5) Vancouver leads the pack. West Vancouver leads Vancouver (down):

6) My last plug on the topic...please e-mail your MP and tell them not to give money to the mega-media corporations.

If you own a restaurant or a dry-cleaners and you fail, no-one comes to your rescue. These media companies were greedy, they borrowed and bought too much and paid their senior executives MANY millions of dollars a year. They jacked up advertising rates and have near-monopolies in some markets eg Vancouver!
Now the restaurateur and the dry-cleaner have to pick up their bill. It would be a national disgrace.
Here is the site for your MP again:


You can contact the Minister of Heritage to insist they only fund Canadian content:

If the Government decides which news organisation gets money, then we kiss democracy goodbye.
6) As I mentioned ING has a great rate of 3.95% five year fixed. Well here's how much the ING calculator says you should buy:
Annual income $100,000
Down-payment $100,000
Car payments $500/month
Property taxes $2500
Purchase price $550,654
That will buy you a very nice house in Surrey now or a shoe-box on the Westside.
7) What's up in the Central OK?
Sales up from Feb but MOI looks huge. Any eye-witness reports?
Stats here:
Summary:

Ist number March 2009. 2nd number March 2008. % change from previous year.
1 Units Listed 1766 1997 -11.57%
2 Units Sold 379 697 -45.62%
3 Sales Volume $130,507,200. $277,257,344. -52.93%
4 List/Sell Ratio 89.53% 96.39%
5 Days to Sell 109 75 45.33%
6 Active Listings 8792 6766 29.94%
MOI: 8792/379 = 23!